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		<title>By: Miguel Arroz</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Arroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richardy

You should ask that on the Apple's WebObjects Development or Deployment mailing lists. I'm certainly someone will help you fixing that problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richardy</p>
<p>You should ask that on the Apple&#8217;s WebObjects Development or Deployment mailing lists. I&#8217;m certainly someone will help you fixing that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardy</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have crated my WO app using WOLips on  Eclips and everything runs from the command line when I deploy but when I try to run it through Monitor I get the following error:

Application: WOAppName
Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException exception
Reason:
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

I believe this is coming from the cgi adaptor but I have not been able to get the Apache 1.3 or 2.2 adaptors to work. Can anyone help?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have crated my WO app using WOLips on  Eclips and everything runs from the command line when I deploy but when I try to run it through Monitor I get the following error:</p>
<p>Application: WOAppName<br />
Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException exception<br />
Reason:<br />
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException</p>
<p>I believe this is coming from the cgi adaptor but I have not been able to get the Apache 1.3 or 2.2 adaptors to work. Can anyone help?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Arroz</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Arroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  One of the best links I can give you is the &lt;a href="http://wocommunity.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;WO Community&lt;/a&gt; page. Get &lt;a href="http://eclipse.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;Eclipse&lt;/a&gt; and checkout the simple &lt;a href="http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Install+WOLips+with+Eclipse+Update+Manager" rel="nofollow"&gt;WOLips plugin installation instructions&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  The WO Community page has the &lt;a href="http://wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Getting started"&lt;/a&gt; link, with everything you need to setup your development environment, and some tutorials made by a few people in the community. &lt;a href="http://wotutorial.furfly.com/downloads.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Janine's tutorial&lt;/a&gt; seems to be particularly cool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  One of the problems of WO is precisely the "learning cliff", specially how confusing is to setup everything and start. People are trying to work on that. Until then, you may get all the help you need on the &lt;a href="http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-dev" rel="nofollow"&gt;WebObjects Development mailing list&lt;/a&gt;, hosted by Apple. There's also the &lt;a href="http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-deploy" rel="nofollow"&gt;deploy list&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Feel free to ask all kinds of questions on that list, I have found there many many helpful people who will help you getting on this WOnderful world! :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  BTW, don't forget that, if you want to use Wonder (a huge open-source set of frameworks that provide a lot of enhancements to the bare-bones WO), and I DO recommend you to do that, you must use WebObjects 5.3.1 (or 5.3.2 or whatever the latest 5.3 version is, I don't recall it). Although Wonder already compiles with 5.4, there are still many bugs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Hi!</p>
<p></p>
<p>  One of the best links I can give you is the <a href="http://wocommunity.org/" rel="nofollow">WO Community</a> page. Get <a href="http://eclipse.org" rel="nofollow">Eclipse</a> and checkout the simple <a href="http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Install+WOLips+with+Eclipse+Update+Manager" rel="nofollow">WOLips plugin installation instructions</a>.</p>
<p></p>
<p>  The WO Community page has the <a href="http://wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Getting started&#8221;</a> link, with everything you need to setup your development environment, and some tutorials made by a few people in the community. <a href="http://wotutorial.furfly.com/downloads.html" rel="nofollow">Janine&#8217;s tutorial</a> seems to be particularly cool.</p>
<p></p>
<p>  One of the problems of WO is precisely the &#8220;learning cliff&#8221;, specially how confusing is to setup everything and start. People are trying to work on that. Until then, you may get all the help you need on the <a href="http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-dev" rel="nofollow">WebObjects Development mailing list</a>, hosted by Apple. There&#8217;s also the <a href="http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-deploy" rel="nofollow">deploy list</a>.</p>
<p></p>
<p>  Feel free to ask all kinds of questions on that list, I have found there many many helpful people who will help you getting on this WOnderful world! <img src='http://terminalapp.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p></p>
<p>  BTW, don&#8217;t forget that, if you want to use Wonder (a huge open-source set of frameworks that provide a lot of enhancements to the bare-bones WO), and I DO recommend you to do that, you must use WebObjects 5.3.1 (or 5.3.2 or whatever the latest 5.3 version is, I don&#8217;t recall it). Although Wonder already compiles with 5.4, there are still many bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the information, Miguel!  As a new developer (or developer wannabe as the case may be), I find this a bit confusing, particularly based on the information provided via ADC.

That said, you have done a masterful job of clearing that up for me, and I do appreciate it.  Do you have any links to some more information for the Eclipse WOLips plugin, leaning towards the rudimentary?

Again, thank you for the clarification!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the information, Miguel!  As a new developer (or developer wannabe as the case may be), I find this a bit confusing, particularly based on the information provided via ADC.</p>
<p>That said, you have done a masterful job of clearing that up for me, and I do appreciate it.  Do you have any links to some more information for the Eclipse WOLips plugin, leaning towards the rudimentary?</p>
<p>Again, thank you for the clarification!</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Arroz</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Arroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed!

xCode, and all the other tools, moved from the "deprecated" status in Tiger to "dead" in Leopard. Apple finally killed the Java/ObjectiveC bridge, so none of the tools work.

xCode still opens old WebObjects projects, and compiles them (that is a pure Java operation, it's not related to the bridge) but won't allow you to create any more projects.

Eclipse and the WOLips plugin are now the official tools to create WebObjects projects. WOLips, although it's created and maintained by the open-source community, is being partially sponsored by Apple. Apple itself uses Eclipse/WOLips massively, and that is one the the reasons the Apple tools were dropped: they clearly think Eclipse and WOLips are much better than their own tools.

Personally, I jumped to Eclipse some time ago, and I love every minute of it. It's so much better than xCode for Java coding that you won't ever want to use another IDE. It's a bit heavy on the machine (specially on RAM, you should have 2GB at least) but all those CPU cycles are being used to do very useful stuff.

WOLips is the plugin that will make Eclipse create and compile WO projects, and replaces all the Apple tools (WOBuilder, EO Modeler, etc) with modern tools that are integrated right there on the IDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed!</p>
<p>xCode, and all the other tools, moved from the &#8220;deprecated&#8221; status in Tiger to &#8220;dead&#8221; in Leopard. Apple finally killed the Java/ObjectiveC bridge, so none of the tools work.</p>
<p>xCode still opens old WebObjects projects, and compiles them (that is a pure Java operation, it&#8217;s not related to the bridge) but won&#8217;t allow you to create any more projects.</p>
<p>Eclipse and the WOLips plugin are now the official tools to create WebObjects projects. WOLips, although it&#8217;s created and maintained by the open-source community, is being partially sponsored by Apple. Apple itself uses Eclipse/WOLips massively, and that is one the the reasons the Apple tools were dropped: they clearly think Eclipse and WOLips are much better than their own tools.</p>
<p>Personally, I jumped to Eclipse some time ago, and I love every minute of it. It&#8217;s so much better than xCode for Java coding that you won&#8217;t ever want to use another IDE. It&#8217;s a bit heavy on the machine (specially on RAM, you should have 2GB at least) but all those CPU cycles are being used to do very useful stuff.</p>
<p>WOLips is the plugin that will make Eclipse create and compile WO projects, and replaces all the Apple tools (WOBuilder, EO Modeler, etc) with modern tools that are integrated right there on the IDE.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having an issue with WO in Leopard, namely that even though I install it with XCode, it doesn't seem to be installed.  I've tried uninstalling Xcode, reinstalling, and it still doesn't show up in the New Project Assistant (like it's supposed to in the Apple documentation).

Has anyone experienced this or have any idea how to fix it or where I could go to figure out how to do so?

Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having an issue with WO in Leopard, namely that even though I install it with XCode, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be installed.  I&#8217;ve tried uninstalling Xcode, reinstalling, and it still doesn&#8217;t show up in the New Project Assistant (like it&#8217;s supposed to in the Apple documentation).</p>
<p>Has anyone experienced this or have any idea how to fix it or where I could go to figure out how to do so?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Andrade</title>
		<link>http://terminalapp.net/welcome-to-the-leopard-webobjects-mess/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Andrade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're wondering how to get your hands on the WO53 frameworks described in the link to revert your WO54 to WO53, you can get them in the XCode 2.5 release.
Mount the XCode 2.5 release, and in

/Volumes/Xcode\ Tools/Packages/Packages/WebObjectsDevelopment.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz

you have:

EOModeler.framework 
JavaEOTool.framework
JavaWebObjects.framework 
JDBCEOAdaptor.framework 
JNDIEOAdaptor.framework

and in

/Volumes/Xcode\ Tools/Packages/Packages/WebObjectsRuntime.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz

you have:

JavaDirectToWeb.framework 
JavaEOApplication.framework 
JavaDTWGeneration.framework 
JavaEOCocoa.framework
JavaEODistribution.framework 
JavaEOGeneration.framework 
JavaEOAccess.framework
JavaEOControl.framework
JavaEOInterface.framework
JavaEOInterfaceCocoa.framework 
JavaEOInterfaceSwing.framework 
JavaEOProject.framework 
JavaEORuleSystem.framework 
JavaFoundation.framework 
JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework 
JavaJNDIAdaptor.framework
JavaWebObjects.framework 
JavaWebServicesClient.framework 
JavaWebServicesGeneration.framework 
JavaWebServicesSupport.framework 
JavaWOExtensions.framework 
JavaWOJSPServlet.framework 
JavaXML.framework 

Note that the JavaWebobjects.framework is inside both Archives, you should use the one in the WebobjectsRuntime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re wondering how to get your hands on the WO53 frameworks described in the link to revert your WO54 to WO53, you can get them in the XCode 2.5 release.<br />
Mount the XCode 2.5 release, and in</p>
<p>/Volumes/Xcode\ Tools/Packages/Packages/WebObjectsDevelopment.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz</p>
<p>you have:</p>
<p>EOModeler.framework<br />
JavaEOTool.framework<br />
JavaWebObjects.framework<br />
JDBCEOAdaptor.framework<br />
JNDIEOAdaptor.framework</p>
<p>and in</p>
<p>/Volumes/Xcode\ Tools/Packages/Packages/WebObjectsRuntime.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz</p>
<p>you have:</p>
<p>JavaDirectToWeb.framework<br />
JavaEOApplication.framework<br />
JavaDTWGeneration.framework<br />
JavaEOCocoa.framework<br />
JavaEODistribution.framework<br />
JavaEOGeneration.framework<br />
JavaEOAccess.framework<br />
JavaEOControl.framework<br />
JavaEOInterface.framework<br />
JavaEOInterfaceCocoa.framework<br />
JavaEOInterfaceSwing.framework<br />
JavaEOProject.framework<br />
JavaEORuleSystem.framework<br />
JavaFoundation.framework<br />
JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework<br />
JavaJNDIAdaptor.framework<br />
JavaWebObjects.framework<br />
JavaWebServicesClient.framework<br />
JavaWebServicesGeneration.framework<br />
JavaWebServicesSupport.framework<br />
JavaWOExtensions.framework<br />
JavaWOJSPServlet.framework<br />
JavaXML.framework </p>
<p>Note that the JavaWebobjects.framework is inside both Archives, you should use the one in the WebobjectsRuntime.</p>
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